Well this season it seems like they are flying around like
butterflys or something...
... as there was one more caught tonight. In division 4 this
time. The player used the nick Prow to play with and the
realnick for this player is Ass / Del(itel). He will get the
same punishment as Fisto got earlier this season, 1 season
ban from now. Which means that he will be able to play the
next time in EQL when the playoffs begins.
As in the earlier case here has also been some confessions
made that it actually is him (actually we didn't even need
it in either case). But because of (atleast some of the
members in) -1 knowing who this player was when playing
Nafianna B will get a WO against them and are into the
finals in division 4.
Now as a reminder: The 4on4 timelimit is 04:00 on wed
(thursday side) and the 2on2s must be played until 04:00
friday (saturday side). So go and frag now!!!
hmm i bet ass/del's clan 3b cheated when they beat csn in
nqr11 silver cup finals too then. csn in the lead 2-0, del
joins and csn lost 2-3. haxx? ghosting? whatever...
#22008-06-23 22:45 by loko (60.191.73.XXX)
#32008-06-23 22:45 by gore (85.211.243.XXX)
Good work Itsinen, fakers never prosper!
#42008-06-23 23:44 by max_power (85.140.58.XXX)
that's all VVD's (console) evil genius :))
#52008-06-23 23:53 by Stev (83.71.83.XXX)
They beat us 2-1 last time, fair and square.
Why anyone thought this was necessary is beyond me. bg.
#62008-06-24 00:48 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
anyway it isnt a good decision imo. del just a good dude,
who cames to save us, coz we havent four in this time. why
you should ban him, but not our team? we just asking him and
start whining, smthn like "ah, we havent four, plz save
our asses" i think, admins should change their decision
about his person. :( bgz
#72008-06-24 00:51 by bent (78.92.77.XXX)
This is so lame. Grow up Del.
#82008-06-24 01:36 by del (91.196.252.XXX)
2 hooraytio: we have never played with ghosting. U can
always join our vent and look at this when we play off
games. In prac often there is many dudes sits at 1 channel
and jokes with us, but never ghosting, cause it's not
interesting to play so.
About today: My friends asked me to play with them, cause
they had no 4-th more then 2 weeks, but they wanted to play.
That wasn't cause their team wonted to be at the top or smth
like that. This is no matter when playing with fake. But
they realy wanted to play official game, cause pracs not so
interesting as off's. And at the end: real prow is playing
not worse as i played this game.
#92008-06-24 01:52 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
VVD is "The Universal Harm"! He is the reason of
all disasters in the world!
Camperoid, you are always right! >:-[=]
2Stev: game with pings 50 vs 70 isn't equal to 65 vs 65. But
we played. And games was fair. If you want we can to play
prac (not replay EQL) on tb3 at WG with pings 65 vs 65. And
we will see "fair" game again.
#102008-06-24 04:28 by lib (213.100.62.XXX)
- He's not on his own!
- Very industrious for a Cossack.
- Sneaky fucking Russian.
#112008-06-24 06:44 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
sooo lame :((
#122008-06-24 09:45 by 1tsinen (88.195.26.XXX)
Del: If that last line tries to say that it wasn't you in
the end prow sure plays good for a player that hasn't played
in hmm... veryvery long and with a identical style. The only
who nicked Prow that we got listed was from your ip, nick
ass used 313 times, prow used 12 times... and no other prow
nick on any other ip seen so far.
#132008-06-24 09:47 by bps (81.235.187.XXX)
#142008-06-24 10:54 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
this thread is relevant to my interests
#152008-06-24 12:11 by Zaq (80.216.1.XXX)
oh no, its ilf once again!!
#162008-06-24 13:43 by trash (90.227.152.XXX)
Irvin: after the last incident with a fake player getting
banned del knew exactly what he was getting into when faking
with you. If a player cant resist his so called friends (if
they are friends asking you to play with them risking
getting banned) its his call and he gets banned.
#172008-06-24 13:44 by SS[3b] (91.77.92.XXX)
Ok guys, quakeworld dying, many players has left last 1-2
years, but delitel had come back and saving our team. And
now we have a new team in 1st divison. If you will ban del -
our team will dead.
We dont have another players instead of delitel.
(XN was gone to play WOW)
When our team was playing in div4, we had many cases when
have been using fakers against us, but never complained.
Final vs chosen was going at our server, and chosen used
some faker in last game, their player had rejoin with
another ip. We had discussion about it, and did not do
nothing. We just pushed ready and won this game.
Besides was many games in 4div, when some players killed
16rl for one map, and we did not do nothing, just was trying
to play better.
Yes 3b had a bad reputation with ghosting, and we are
apologizing for it.
But i ask to give our team another chance. It was fucking
mistake. Delitel is
very kind man and could not refuse from fucking request from
#182008-06-24 13:50 by Stev (83.70.211.XXX)
\'2Stev: game with pings 50 vs 70 isn\'t equal to 65 vs 65.
But we played. And games was fair. If you want we can to
play prac (not replay EQL) on tb3 at WG with pings 65 vs 65.
And we will see \"fair\" game again.\'
I was trying to imply you were the better side, so I didn\'t
see why cheating was necessary.
But instead you try to imply that we weren\'t
\"fair\" in a game with ping \"50 vs
70\" (I was ping ~60, Irvin was ping 56 in that game.
Also, that server was deemed to be the fairest by an admin)
when you come along and sign up a div1 player 2 weeks ago,
presumably just because you weren\'t winning all your
I\'m afraid you don\'t get to do that.
#192008-06-24 15:36 by PEOPLE (70.85.173.XXX)
rulses are rules , who gives a shit about ur excuses
this site should be named like
European qompetetion lanuguage
who have better speach is the winner
i would recommend replace admin stuff with russians next
season becouse present admins are idioms that fucking
annoces on news site are jokes we have end on the season and
teams in div4 who didnt play single game , GG
yes and fuck quake policy and their ip listings
and i will tell u somthin i heard the rumors that some
people want to destroy qw and nguake mader will come to jail
also ip lists provider
#202008-06-24 17:07 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
i think we need atleast one russian admin for eql and nqr.
Then we will "catch" few not russian fakers
#212008-06-24 17:08 by trash (90.227.152.XXX)
comment above,,can you take that in english plz? lol!
#222008-06-24 17:17 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
? Maybe im not the person who should say something here but
i have to ask SS[3b] for some prof for the shittalk about
chosen had a faker in the final?
#232008-06-24 17:41 by supernova (83.252.93.XXX)
#242008-06-24 17:46 by SS (91.77.92.XXX)
There was a fact of change IP before 5-th game vs CHOSEN.
But we did not begin to shout about it.
Except for that there were many similar cases earlier with
Del did not play more than two years, now he has returned
and has helped to make to us an excellent command. For last
year 3B was the most active command in 4on4. And we have
achieved good results.
But we cannot play further if will be ban :(
dont killing 3b , dont killing quakeworld :)
#252008-06-24 17:59 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
"Final vs chosen was going at our server, and chosen
used some faker in last game, their player had rejoin with
another ip. We had discussion about it, and did not do
nothing. We just pushed ready and won this game."
This is the worst bullshit i have ever read. Give me those
IPs and the name of the player you think was faking. Why
would we need to fake vs you in the 5th map when we won the
groupgame 2-1 and won the first 2 maps of the final?
Spectators accused both Mythic and Donut of being fakers in
that game. Mythic is eriko and that was clearly stated on
our lineup on the nqr site. Donut has always nicked Donut
ever since 1998 when he played in Doomed with players like
Fugitive and Shiva/Memil (Shiva might have only standinned
with them but he knows who donut is)
Stop accusing us of using fakers now since that has never
#262008-06-24 18:12 by Pyta (89.160.41.XXX)
Shame at 3b for dropping mindless accusations just to get
the focus off of you.
I think the punishment for the fakers are appropriate, but
also the clan needs some kind of penalty for using a faker
when, as in this case, there is clear evidence of their
knowledge of the situation. Not just a forfeit of that
Irvin: Let me burst your bubble. It\'s not Russia against
#272008-06-24 19:03 by Hedgepig (84.203.144.XXX)
I'm amazed that -1 are trying to turn this around as if they
are the victims.
VVD: a minor ping disadvantage in a fair league game has
nothing to do with this. Trying to stir up a grudge match
will accomplish nothing for you or your team, it just makes
you look lame by avoiding the issue here.
Irvin: I agree that there should be a Russian admin in the
next league. At this stage, rule-breaking in leagues by
Russian clans seems to be a regular occurrence. Maybe a
Russian admin will have better insight into the community
and stop this.
SS: I agree with you... it is a shame to see a core player
in an up and coming top team be banned for a season. I
agree that it only hurts QW. It is a tough call for the
admins to make. If it were my decision I would not ban the
#282008-06-24 19:31 by Eta-bETa (78.69.59.XXX)
Omg. "PEOPLE" U would end up last in that
competition. Clearly! And I thought people had stopped
faking by now! It's a Shame..
#292008-06-24 19:34 by Eta-bETa (78.69.59.XXX)
Oh, I read "who have better spelling" is the
winner... sry :E. Maybe your speach would end up top5 after
all :\. I agree with the "who gives a s. about your
excuses" opinion. Top3 then... :\
#302008-06-24 23:15 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
2Hedgepig: 50 vs 70 is "a minor ping
If we play with 50 and they with 70 - who will win?
I don't want to discuss this any more if u don't understand
simple things. :-\
#312008-06-24 23:16 by meshuggah (90.188.227.XXX)
Lol, so sad.. IMO(cos i know the situation and from qw.ru)
you should ban VVD, not ass. its not ass\'s blame at all -
vvd\'s annoying irc private shit for fakering -1 can reach
anyone. the destructive element is VVD for sure. (sorry VVD,
but you at least was able to take good div4 player
c0ckatrice who was on servers that evening as more
reasonable faker(sorry for abstract lawbroke) while you
spammed div1-2 players for \"help\")
#322008-06-25 00:31 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
the truth is out there
#332008-06-25 01:16 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
Ban, plz, me. Not Del.
P.S. This is the death of the -1...
#342008-06-25 01:45 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
death of -1 was a long time ago :( and now it can be death
of good div1/2 team 3B, coz they are havent fourth player
with a delitel's skill. you can ban only del or all 3B team,
i think it will be same :( like i was told, you should ban
our team but dont touch del. :E
#352008-06-25 02:39 by Hedgepig (194.0.77.XXX)
VVD: your question is completely irrelevant to this
discussion. Don't you understand that? I also think that
VVD should be banned for being spineless enough to stir up
bizarre arguments in an attempt to derail the thread. Also,
I changed my mind and I think that del should be banned too
because of the sickening overuse of frowny faces by his
#362008-06-25 03:43 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
2Hedgepig: I only answer to Stev: "They beat us 2-1
last time, fair and square." And nothing else.
#1083;и - кто
#1090;ь - тот
Is there any rulez about players ban without warning?
As I understand first of all you should make a warning for
player and in second case only ban him.
Ban only for one game is so lame.
#392008-06-25 10:40 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)
What's up with people?
Read the rules, obey the rules <--- as simple as that?
If you don't, you'll get punished <--- pretty easy to
Lame excuses like: "Our team is gonna die if you do
this" <--- Well maybe should have though of that
And about chosen faking: Did you get his real ip or the IP
from the Qizmo he was connecting through? :P Just send me
the IP on IRC and i will check on my servers if the player
has been there, and what nick he used.
#402008-06-25 10:45 by Kalma (88.112.65.XXX)
"If any clan or player is caught doing any of the above
they will be punished at the crew's discretion. This could
be a warning, point’s deduction or a ban from
Warnings might work for things like shitacting, but this
faking is so obviously and seriously against the rules. I
don't understand why the clan doesn't get banned in these
cases. :/ Anyway, good job EQL crew for catching another
#412008-06-25 12:22 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
Is EQL exist for observance rules or for support qw?
#422008-06-25 13:02 by Stev (83.70.211.XXX)
It's not as simple as that.
It's a matter of deciding which does more damage to qw:
Cheating without repercussions, or the suspension of a
player for one season.
#432008-06-25 13:44 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
Cheating is aimbot, wallhack, ghosting, speedcheat etc. But
not facking. He is not a cheater. He played using self skill
Maybe you said that -1 cheating by useing fackers... Yes. In
this case this is a cheat by -1, not by Del. I'm -1 team
leader and ban me instead Del.
P.S. Sorry that I want to play so strongly.
P.P.S. Oh, my english...
#442008-06-25 14:03 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)
Or just ban both, one for taking the plan into action, and
the other for actually performing it.