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#51 2008-06-25 16:59 by johnie (83.70.171.XXX)
VVD, with repect you would be better off not making anymore
comments as you keep digging a bigger hole for yourself and
tbh your arguement now is just laughable.
#52 2008-06-25 17:47 by VVD (91.192.83.XXX)
2Hooraytio: read, plz, my message carefully.
I said that I have demos with different team messages in
different games from 1 player. Understand?
#53 2008-06-25 18:10 by Hedgepig (84.203.144.XXX)
"red card for VVD (missed next season) and yellow card
for del :E" does make some sense. My logic being:
"cheating" is generally done to gain an unfair
advantage. -1, as a clan, cheated, but I think that del
just broke the rules and I would not call him a cheater,
just a rule-breaker. It is debatable of course.
I would support a ban for VVD and just a yellow card for
del, except for the fact that it sets a dangerous precedent.
Any clan that is struggling to get 4 players could just get
a div1 pal to fakenick, and the semi-active div4 clan leader
takes the hit. Tough call.
#54 2008-06-25 18:11 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
lol #50
why, in this case, different messages in AV?
#55 2008-06-25 18:25 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
forgive me, has not noticed the second page :E
about Hedgepig's #53 comment:
in that case it is necessary to change rules to a following
season about faking, but in this one - make the prevention
for del.
#56 2008-06-25 19:13 by BlastastiC (86.12.233.XXX)
"Maybe you said that -1 cheating by useing fakers...
Yes. In this case this is a cheat by -1, not by
Del."
So... everyone on the team is cheating *except* the faker?
Is basically what you're saying.
#57 2008-06-25 19:49 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
maybe another cfg, who cares it was 2 seasons ago, you
should have complained back then. now you are only trying to
get the heat of your own bad behaviour...
#58 2008-06-25 20:06 by qqshka (87.253.8.XXX)
So, this decision hurts not del but rest of 3B clan also,
since they most likelly will not have 4 ppl. One shoot, four
frags?
Perhaps, better just disqualify -1 clan and warn but not ban
del, this should prevent clans from facking more, right?
hf
#59 2008-06-25 20:26 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
how can they not have 4 players btw? XN gone to wow ok but:
BAGZ BULAT BUBLIK SS = 4? and then they still have BONEZ too
#60 2008-06-25 20:30 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
Hm, the rules actualy say that its not allowed to fake. And
one season ban isnt that hard to take. And its not killing a
div1 team. You can still prac and you can still play in nqr?
Getting banned from a leage that is as inactive as eql isnt
that bad. Just keep on playing and be happy.
#61 2008-06-25 20:32 by VVD (91.192.83.XXX)
Bonez has parmanent connection troubles.
Sun is innactive.
With bagz 3b ~div2, not div1. And, afaik, bagz not active
all time.
#62 2008-06-25 20:46 by bublik (77.79.138.XXX)
you should punish clan wich want to get unfair advantage not
the faker who gets nothing except risk being banned
#63 2008-06-25 23:13 by 1tsinen (77.105.80.XXX)
Don't understand why Dels punishment should be any different
from Fistos? Both did the same thing and they should get the
same punishment too. And if I were VVD I would stfu on this
page now as somebody already told him to, you are digging a
REALLY BIG HOLE for yourself.
And just for information, if it's not breaking the rules to
fake in the future you can catch me playing atleast 3
different div4-6 clans :)
Now to some small copies from the rules section for the
BLIND people:
-Playing in more than one clan, or playing under someone
else's name in another clan (mercing).
If any clan or player is caught doing any of the above they
will be punished at the crew's discretion. This could be a
warning, point’s deduction or a ban from EQL. (other
offenses section, notice the last line too)
Some clips from Clan restrictions:
- ...A player can only play in 1 clan at the same time...
And all players have to be approved by the admins before
they can play any games at all.
... etc etc.. there were some more but I'm going to sleep
now so that should be enough :)
#64 2008-06-25 23:45 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
LOL @ #61
it is DEL's own fault that he faked and now they (3b) have
to play with bagz instead or perhaps XN if he can get away
from wow for 90min or so. how hard can it be. its not like
the admins can let del play just because "3B are
div2" with this other guy
so 3b are not killed if del is banned, they are just div2?
well he can only blame himself for letting his
"div1" teammates down. very interesting anyway
since a lot of you guys have been whining about killing 3b
when they infact are not killed but just gets a little bit
worse...
lamest excuse ever there vvd
#65 2008-06-25 23:56 by IBA (84.56.238.XXX)
Every1 can get anni's msges since they are available at
qwscene.net
#66 2008-06-26 01:09 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
Hooraytio, you always read only half of my messages. :-\
1tsinen, why I can't to say my opinion too?
#67 2008-06-26 02:07 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
i read all of it and i still think that you are on deep
water
#68 2008-06-26 07:46 by Zepp (78.106.244.XXX)
omg, holyshit :)
VVD's arguments are just ridiculous.
Just shame to read such bullshit, wrotten so seriously.
#69 2008-06-26 12:06 by 1tsinen (88.195.26.XXX)
VVD
The thing is that you have said the same thing now atleast 5
times with nothing new and that's irritating. There is also
a lack of logics in what you are writing so as said you are
only making it worse for yourself.
#70 2008-06-26 16:02 by max_power (83.102.149.XXX)
lol @ VVD (as usual, haha)
#71 2008-06-26 17:28 by mushi (194.65.103.XXX)
faking happens all the time. no ban to any1 plz as there's
no way of controling it
#72 2008-06-26 18:03 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
Why arent you people complaining when the faking have
happend then? instead of two seasons after when some of your
friends get busted? :)
#73 2008-06-26 23:20 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
1tsinen: Davay podiskutiruem na russkom, a to moe znanie
angliyskogo nastolko skovyvaet i iskajaet moi mysli, chto
poluchaetsya polnyy bred i sovsem ne to, chto ya hotel
skazat'. :-[=]
#74 2008-06-27 01:28 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
a fools last resort: flame ppl on a language they cant
understand. but on the other hand it seems like most
russians have problems with english so what the heck
fisto, they didnt complain back then because they obviously
cheated too, just that now when they got busted they decided
to dig up some old shit to prove absolutely nothing. all it
did was to annoy ppl
#75 2008-06-27 10:07 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
2Hooraytio:
Why are you so nasty? Is it coz your team lost in fair game
vs 3b, when del save the day?
anyway, when you was an NQR admin, you knew, that im faking
for your friends team, but you just has ignore it. and now
you try to be basic. LOL!
#76 2008-06-27 10:30 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)
Russian arguments are almost funnier than berak.com atm
:D
"chosen faked in nqr final", "hooraytio as
NQR-admin brings in russian div5faker for his friends",
"ncr faking cause he used different tp-cfg" ----
ROFL
#77 2008-06-27 10:30 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)
break.com*
#78 2008-06-27 10:49 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
2fog: Don't know anout 1st, but 2nd and 3rd are the facts.
Ye, fog, some players in some situations can to fake, but
other can't and will be banned.
#79 2008-06-27 10:51 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)
s/anout/about/
#80 2008-06-27 12:24 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
#75
i knew irvin played with them in pracs but i didnt know he
faked with them in official games, if he did then it just
shows how ANOTHER russian faked and cheated in a league game
(and here he even admits it himself)... sad
#81 2008-06-27 12:25 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
faking is a faking, it does not depend on a div, whats a
problem fog?
and about "chosen faked in nqr final". if you saw
pracs 3b vs csn before that silver final, it was about +100
- 150 for 3b, and it was few times. why in final they won
two maps then? magic? im sure, you will find another
arguments, but i also assured, in your mind you know, that
it wasnt csn players. :P
#82 2008-06-27 12:27 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)
lol Hooraytio, you knew it perfectly :EEEEE
#83 2008-06-27 13:54 by Kalma (88.112.65.XXX)
Irvin, lets see some proof or shut the fuck up, cheat.
Chosen beat 3B before too, with almost same lineups on both
sides.
#84 2008-06-27 14:04 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
both #81 and #82 are stupid comments without no proof to
support them whatsoever.
yes 3b had a good team but there was a possibility to beat
them which we have proven before. NO MAGIC NEEDED.
csn beat 3b 2-1 in the groupgame and we won 2 maps in the
final WITHOUT using any fakers. we improved alot by praccing
during the season (an explanation also used by 3b for their
own success) and we beat oblivion 3-2 even tho most ppl be
against us. csn have never used and will never use fakers to
accomplish what we cannot do on our own.
Irvin just admitted he faked for a team during nqr11 (i
guess thats what he means since he says i was admin at that
time) and perhaps admins of nqr12 (if im not involved)
should think about letting irvin participate or not...
#85 2008-06-27 16:14 by fog (213.134.118.XXX)
"faking is a faking, it does not depend on a div, whats
a problem fog?" quote Irvin
Did I ever say otherwise? No I don't think so, so don't talk
shit.
The problem is your arguments, even a 13year old could come
up with something better than: false accusations with no
proof at all. Even better: It doesn't have a shit to do with
what just happened here. That's the problem.
#86 2008-06-27 17:07 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
Haha, this goes to history! :) Irvin, vvd. You must be
qw-historys most retarded ppl
#87 2008-06-27 17:10 by bublik (77.79.153.XXX)
u repeat about beating 3b in groupgame again and again
especially this comment made me laught "Chosen beat 3B
before too, with almost same lineups on both sides." If
u dont remember let me fresh ur memory - in gruopgame 3b's
lineup was : XN, SS, Sun and Bagz who lagged every 2 mins.
And u beaten us very very hard - 5 frags on e1m2 and 16
frags on dm2 - our "worst map". And finalgame
lineup was : XN, Bulat, me and SS who played only first 2
maps, then came delitel. I dont know was there any fakers or
not but scores of theese 2 first maps was really strange.
#88 2008-06-27 17:25 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)
I dont think kalma was talking about that eql game. We have
beaten 3b in pracs with other lineups. Yeye, i dont really
see the point in taking this to the next level just talking.
Give the community some facts if you wanna shittalk coz this
is just frustrating and bad for the whole game. You guys
talked about ruin a clan by banning del, but what do you
think this flamewar do to the community? I cant see anything
good come out of this if you dont get some prof.
#89 2008-06-27 18:30 by batfinal (212.113.204.XXX)
at last some drama that doesnt involve dogs
#90 2008-06-27 19:13 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
ffs bublik, those scores are not strange...
with our best 4 guys we have a really good lineup just as
you guys have. we had good starts and kept holding on to the
lead. BESIDES you only won with 19 frags on 4th map so it
was not easy for you to win that game at all. its is
hilariuos how you guys keep on saying that we used fakers
just because we managed to win a game 2-1 and then 2 maps in
the final. ok sega only won 1 map in the semi vs 3b but COME
ON. 3b are not some fuckings gods that cant be beaten. now
STFU or give us some evidence you retarded russian trolls...
#91 2008-06-27 21:37 by bent (78.92.74.XXX)
to the russians:
the FACT is that del faked, and he will get a proper
punishment I'm sure by the EQL admins (and let's hope he
won't fake again) SO GET OVER IT!
Irvin: you were faking and you admit it now, just to let
someone down? Pretty sad, really...
don't ruin qw 4on4 :/
#92 2008-06-28 01:23 by bagz (79.164.123.XXX)
vvd opyat' gget :))))))))))))))))) dont ban del he is our
superstar :) ban vvd :))))))))
#93 2008-06-28 02:12 by Zepp (77.241.39.XXX)
:(
too pity that my russian friends talking silly things here,
and too pity such nice guys (at least i thought before )
like Hooraytio and K genarilze about "retarded russian
trolls"
Long live international qw community
:(
#94 2008-06-28 02:31 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
zepp, i am sorry but before your post there was only
retarded trolls posting from russia, your post was the first
sane post from a russian person...
#95 2008-06-28 02:35 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)
u must understand i get offended when they accuse csn of
faking...
#96 2008-06-28 03:02 by fog (213.134.118.XXX)
Seems like we are all fakers. Fakers fake, we all fake.
Fakers here and fakers there. Faking fakers are fake, but
realnick as fake is pretty fake. Have a good fake and
godnight.
#97 2008-06-28 04:31 by Kalma (88.112.65.XXX)
Zepp, If the "K" means me, I haven't generalized
or dissed the Russians. I'm not into that kind of shit.
#98 2008-06-28 19:03 by bnz (80.73.0.XXX)
well , i must agree with hooratio, most of the russians look
retarded on the internet =\ anyway 95% of the PEPOL are
retardet =D
#99 2008-06-29 12:12 by bublik (81.30.190.XXX)
nice to hear such kind words especially from nqr admin with
banned faker in his own team
#100 2008-06-29 20:20 by 100! (78.92.77.XXX)
bublik: csn is innocent until proven guilty
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