New faker caught!

2008-06-23 22:39 by Itsinen

Well this season it seems like they are flying around like butterflys or something...

... as there was one more caught tonight. In division 4 this time. The player used the nick Prow to play with and the realnick for this player is Ass / Del(itel). He will get the same punishment as Fisto got earlier this season, 1 season ban from now. Which means that he will be able to play the next time in EQL when the playoffs begins.

As in the earlier case here has also been some confessions made that it actually is him (actually we didn't even need it in either case). But because of (atleast some of the members in) -1 knowing who this player was when playing Nafianna B will get a WO against them and are into the finals in division 4.

Now as a reminder: The 4on4 timelimit is 04:00 on wed (thursday side) and the 2on2s must be played until 04:00 friday (saturday side). So go and frag now!!!

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#1 2008-06-23 22:44 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)

hmm i bet ass/del's clan 3b cheated when they beat csn in nqr11 silver cup finals too then. csn in the lead 2-0, del joins and csn lost 2-3. haxx? ghosting? whatever...

#2 2008-06-23 22:45 by loko (60.191.73.XXX)

soo lame

#3 2008-06-23 22:45 by gore (85.211.243.XXX)

Good work Itsinen, fakers never prosper!

#4 2008-06-23 23:44 by max_power (85.140.58.XXX)

that's all VVD's (console) evil genius :))

#5 2008-06-23 23:53 by Stev (83.71.83.XXX)

They beat us 2-1 last time, fair and square.

Why anyone thought this was necessary is beyond me. bg.

#6 2008-06-24 00:48 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)

anyway it isnt a good decision imo. del just a good dude, who cames to save us, coz we havent four in this time. why you should ban him, but not our team? we just asking him and start whining, smthn like "ah, we havent four, plz save our asses" i think, admins should change their decision about his person. :( bgz

#7 2008-06-24 00:51 by bent (78.92.77.XXX)

This is so lame. Grow up Del.

#8 2008-06-24 01:36 by del (91.196.252.XXX)

2 hooraytio: we have never played with ghosting. U can always join our vent and look at this when we play off games. In prac often there is many dudes sits at 1 channel and jokes with us, but never ghosting, cause it's not interesting to play so.

About today: My friends asked me to play with them, cause they had no 4-th more then 2 weeks, but they wanted to play. That wasn't cause their team wonted to be at the top or smth like that. This is no matter when playing with fake. But they realy wanted to play official game, cause pracs not so interesting as off's. And at the end: real prow is playing not worse as i played this game.

#9 2008-06-24 01:52 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

VVD is "The Universal Harm"! He is the reason of all disasters in the world!
Camperoid, you are always right! >:-[=]

2Stev: game with pings 50 vs 70 isn't equal to 65 vs 65. But we played. And games was fair. If you want we can to play prac (not replay EQL) on tb3 at WG with pings 65 vs 65. And we will see "fair" game again.

#10 2008-06-24 04:28 by lib (213.100.62.XXX)

- He's not on his own!
- Very industrious for a Cossack.
- Sneaky fucking Russian.

#11 2008-06-24 06:44 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)

sooo lame :((

#12 2008-06-24 09:45 by 1tsinen (88.195.26.XXX)

Del: If that last line tries to say that it wasn't you in the end prow sure plays good for a player that hasn't played in hmm... veryvery long and with a identical style. The only who nicked Prow that we got listed was from your ip, nick ass used 313 times, prow used 12 times... and no other prow nick on any other ip seen so far.

#13 2008-06-24 09:47 by bps (81.235.187.XXX)

ban

#14 2008-06-24 10:54 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)

this thread is relevant to my interests

#15 2008-06-24 12:11 by Zaq (80.216.1.XXX)

oh no, its ilf once again!!

#16 2008-06-24 13:43 by trash (90.227.152.XXX)

Irvin: after the last incident with a fake player getting banned del knew exactly what he was getting into when faking with you. If a player cant resist his so called friends (if they are friends asking you to play with them risking getting banned) its his call and he gets banned.

#17 2008-06-24 13:44 by SS[3b] (91.77.92.XXX)

Ok guys, quakeworld dying, many players has left last 1-2 years, but delitel had come back and saving our team. And now we have a new team in 1st divison. If you will ban del - our team will dead.
We dont have another players instead of delitel.
(XN was gone to play WOW)

When our team was playing in div4, we had many cases when have been using fakers against us, but never complained.

Final vs chosen was going at our server, and chosen used some faker in last game, their player had rejoin with another ip. We had discussion about it, and did not do nothing. We just pushed ready and won this game.

Besides was many games in 4div, when some players killed 16rl for one map, and we did not do nothing, just was trying to play better.

Yes 3b had a bad reputation with ghosting, and we are apologizing for it.
But i ask to give our team another chance. It was fucking mistake. Delitel is
very kind man and could not refuse from fucking request from f#$@^ VVD.

#18 2008-06-24 13:50 by Stev (83.70.211.XXX)

\'2Stev: game with pings 50 vs 70 isn\'t equal to 65 vs 65. But we played. And games was fair. If you want we can to play prac (not replay EQL) on tb3 at WG with pings 65 vs 65. And we will see \"fair\" game again.\'

I was trying to imply you were the better side, so I didn\'t see why cheating was necessary.

But instead you try to imply that we weren\'t \"fair\" in a game with ping \"50 vs 70\" (I was ping ~60, Irvin was ping 56 in that game. Also, that server was deemed to be the fairest by an admin) when you come along and sign up a div1 player 2 weeks ago, presumably just because you weren\'t winning all your matches 2-0?

I\'m afraid you don\'t get to do that.

#19 2008-06-24 15:36 by PEOPLE (70.85.173.XXX)

rulses are rules , who gives a shit about ur excuses


this site should be named like
European qompetetion lanuguage
who have better speach is the winner



i would recommend replace admin stuff with russians next season becouse present admins are idioms that fucking annoces on news site are jokes we have end on the season and teams in div4 who didnt play single game , GG

yes and fuck quake policy and their ip listings
and i will tell u somthin i heard the rumors that some people want to destroy qw and nguake mader will come to jail also ip lists provider

#20 2008-06-24 17:07 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)

i think we need atleast one russian admin for eql and nqr. Then we will "catch" few not russian fakers immidiatly. :E

#21 2008-06-24 17:08 by trash (90.227.152.XXX)

comment above,,can you take that in english plz? lol!

#22 2008-06-24 17:17 by fisto (213.66.216.XXX)

? Maybe im not the person who should say something here but i have to ask SS[3b] for some prof for the shittalk about chosen had a faker in the final?

#23 2008-06-24 17:41 by supernova (83.252.93.XXX)

baaaaaaan

#24 2008-06-24 17:46 by SS (91.77.92.XXX)

There was a fact of change IP before 5-th game vs CHOSEN. But we did not begin to shout about it.
Except for that there were many similar cases earlier with other commands.
Del did not play more than two years, now he has returned and has helped to make to us an excellent command. For last year 3B was the most active command in 4on4. And we have achieved good results.
But we cannot play further if will be ban :(
dont killing 3b , dont killing quakeworld :)

#25 2008-06-24 17:59 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)

"Final vs chosen was going at our server, and chosen used some faker in last game, their player had rejoin with another ip. We had discussion about it, and did not do nothing. We just pushed ready and won this game."

This is the worst bullshit i have ever read. Give me those IPs and the name of the player you think was faking. Why would we need to fake vs you in the 5th map when we won the groupgame 2-1 and won the first 2 maps of the final?

Spectators accused both Mythic and Donut of being fakers in that game. Mythic is eriko and that was clearly stated on our lineup on the nqr site. Donut has always nicked Donut ever since 1998 when he played in Doomed with players like Fugitive and Shiva/Memil (Shiva might have only standinned with them but he knows who donut is)

Stop accusing us of using fakers now since that has never happenend

#26 2008-06-24 18:12 by Pyta (89.160.41.XXX)

Shame at 3b for dropping mindless accusations just to get the focus off of you.

I think the punishment for the fakers are appropriate, but also the clan needs some kind of penalty for using a faker when, as in this case, there is clear evidence of their knowledge of the situation. Not just a forfeit of that match...

Irvin: Let me burst your bubble. It\'s not Russia against the world.

#27 2008-06-24 19:03 by Hedgepig (84.203.144.XXX)

I'm amazed that -1 are trying to turn this around as if they are the victims.

VVD: a minor ping disadvantage in a fair league game has nothing to do with this. Trying to stir up a grudge match will accomplish nothing for you or your team, it just makes you look lame by avoiding the issue here.

Irvin: I agree that there should be a Russian admin in the next league. At this stage, rule-breaking in leagues by Russian clans seems to be a regular occurrence. Maybe a Russian admin will have better insight into the community and stop this.

SS: I agree with you... it is a shame to see a core player in an up and coming top team be banned for a season. I agree that it only hurts QW. It is a tough call for the admins to make. If it were my decision I would not ban the player.

#28 2008-06-24 19:31 by Eta-bETa (78.69.59.XXX)

Omg. "PEOPLE" U would end up last in that competition. Clearly! And I thought people had stopped faking by now! It's a Shame..

#29 2008-06-24 19:34 by Eta-bETa (78.69.59.XXX)

Oh, I read "who have better spelling" is the winner... sry :E. Maybe your speach would end up top5 after all :\. I agree with the "who gives a s. about your excuses" opinion. Top3 then... :\

#30 2008-06-24 23:15 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

2Hedgepig: 50 vs 70 is "a minor ping disadvantage"? :-D
If we play with 50 and they with 70 - who will win?
I don't want to discuss this any more if u don't understand simple things. :-\

#31 2008-06-24 23:16 by meshuggah (90.188.227.XXX)

Lol, so sad.. IMO(cos i know the situation and from qw.ru) you should ban VVD, not ass. its not ass\'s blame at all - vvd\'s annoying irc private shit for fakering -1 can reach anyone. the destructive element is VVD for sure. (sorry VVD, but you at least was able to take good div4 player c0ckatrice who was on servers that evening as more reasonable faker(sorry for abstract lawbroke) while you spammed div1-2 players for \"help\")

#32 2008-06-25 00:31 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)

the truth is out there

#33 2008-06-25 01:16 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

Ban, plz, me. Not Del.

P.S. This is the death of the -1...

#34 2008-06-25 01:45 by Irvin (217.10.38.XXX)

death of -1 was a long time ago :( and now it can be death of good div1/2 team 3B, coz they are havent fourth player with a delitel's skill. you can ban only del or all 3B team, i think it will be same :( like i was told, you should ban our team but dont touch del. :E

#35 2008-06-25 02:39 by Hedgepig (194.0.77.XXX)

VVD: your question is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Don't you understand that? I also think that VVD should be banned for being spineless enough to stir up bizarre arguments in an attempt to derail the thread. Also, I changed my mind and I think that del should be banned too because of the sickening overuse of frowny faces by his supporters.

#36 2008-06-25 03:43 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

2Hedgepig: I only answer to Stev: "They beat us 2-1 last time, fair and square." And nothing else.
Как вы за@$%*. Мой англи& #1081;ский не позво& #1083;яет мне так красн& #1086;речи&#1074 ;о опуск& #1072;ть собес& #1077;дник&#1086 ;в, как это делае& #1090; Hedgepig. Прави& #1083;ьно сказа& #1083;и - кто лучше умеет мошни& #1090;ь - тот и прав. :-\

#37 2008-06-25 03:45 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

Stupid www.eql.nu - replace "&" by "&".

#38 2008-06-25 09:27 by witka (194.190.161.XXX)

Is there any rulez about players ban without warning?
As I understand first of all you should make a warning for player and in second case only ban him.

Ban only for one game is so lame.

#39 2008-06-25 10:40 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)

What's up with people?

Read the rules, obey the rules <--- as simple as that?

If you don't, you'll get punished <--- pretty easy to understand.

Lame excuses like: "Our team is gonna die if you do this" <--- Well maybe should have though of that before?

Take responsibility.

And about chosen faking: Did you get his real ip or the IP from the Qizmo he was connecting through? :P Just send me the IP on IRC and i will check on my servers if the player has been there, and what nick he used.

#40 2008-06-25 10:45 by Kalma (88.112.65.XXX)

"If any clan or player is caught doing any of the above they will be punished at the crew's discretion. This could be a warning, point&#8217;s deduction or a ban from EQL."

Warnings might work for things like shitacting, but this faking is so obviously and seriously against the rules. I don't understand why the clan doesn't get banned in these cases. :/ Anyway, good job EQL crew for catching another cheat.

#41 2008-06-25 12:22 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

Is EQL exist for observance rules or for support qw?

#42 2008-06-25 13:02 by Stev (83.70.211.XXX)

It's not as simple as that.

It's a matter of deciding which does more damage to qw: Cheating without repercussions, or the suspension of a player for one season.

#43 2008-06-25 13:44 by VVD (194.154.66.XXX)

Cheating is aimbot, wallhack, ghosting, speedcheat etc. But not facking. He is not a cheater. He played using self skill only.
Maybe you said that -1 cheating by useing fackers... Yes. In this case this is a cheat by -1, not by Del. I'm -1 team leader and ban me instead Del.

P.S. Sorry that I want to play so strongly.
P.P.S. Oh, my english...

#44 2008-06-25 14:03 by fog (213.134.126.XXX)

Or just ban both, one for taking the plan into action, and the other for actually performing it.

#45 2008-06-25 14:11 by SS (85.140.37.XXX)

It's very old story, but ...
http ://www.eql.nu/eql5/matches.php?id=178#Played
what do u think about PWR, who killed 17 rl(dm2) in this game?
Why nobody was interested here?
Who was "good ol' danish players"? who could rape us?

And as Witka sad:
"Is there any rulez about players ban without warning?"

what says rules about it?

#46 2008-06-25 14:42 by opel (91.76.81.XXX)

red card for VVD (missed next season) and yellow card for del :E

#47 2008-06-25 15:11 by VVD (91.192.83.XXX)

http ://www.eql.nu/eql5/matches.php?id=293#Played
http ://www.eql.nu/eql5/matches.php?id=235#Played

I have demos from group and 1/2 game. Ncr have different messages. 2nd game he had messages equal with anni's messages (not egnlish - mb de?).

And I have other examples when we win easy some team in pracs (+150 on all maps) and lose in official game -150 in 1 or 2 weeks with same lineups and ping.

#48 2008-06-25 15:20 by Stev (83.70.211.XXX)

"red card for VVD (missed next season) and yellow card for del :E"

Actually, that sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment. It does appear to have been VVD's idea, and he's willing to take responsibility for his actions.

It has the additional benefit of not potentially killing an active div1 clan.

#49 2008-06-25 15:43 by Kalma (88.112.65.XXX)

Sure, lets be lenient with cheats when they are in a div1 clan.

#50 2008-06-25 16:25 by Hooraytio (81.236.232.XXX)

lol #47
maybe you used fakers in the groupgame and thats why u raped them, then in the next match u didnt use fakers and AV could win a game.

it is so fkn great to see all these wild accusations from the russian qw community about every single clan when it is actually russian players who cheat all the time, get over yourselves plz...

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