Fakenicker cought

2007-09-26 23:38 by Highlander

Sad news today.
We have confirmed that Fluarity from team BO (div4) and priapos from team NC (div5) is the same person.
It's not an easy decision for us, but we have decided to kick the player out of the league and give clan NC a warning.

Hopefully there are no other players that tries to cheat in that way, but in case there are, please let us know.
If the fake-nicking player confess to similar action by himself, we will resign from kicking the player out of the league and just remove the faked nickname from the player list.
Another consequence for team NC is their game against Allans Vittnen where fluarity played, changed to WO.

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#1 2007-09-26 23:44 by QrA (83.11.102.XXX)

sad but true :(

#2 2007-09-27 00:58 by Fluarity (83.238.238.XXX)

sorx all for this :<

#3 2007-09-27 01:02 by Xcutor(AV) (91.126.88.XXX)

Lost alot of frags because of this, so unnecessary. :(

#4 2007-09-27 11:12 by kryddturken (88.131.66.XXX)

We won with more than 100+ frags on each map but now, since we played a stronger and cheaty team we're robbed of those frags, and the clan that cheated vs us aint even banned.

let us replay them with their regular team or let us keep our scores.

#5 2007-09-27 11:45 by marshall (84.29.19.XXX)

Why not let av keep their well deserved scores?

#6 2007-09-27 12:13 by kryddturken (88.131.66.XXX)

Best part of all that if it comes down to frags in the end we will be at a severe disadvantage since other top clans will get a lot more than 100+ frags per map, just as we did, vs NC.

When we asked sassa about this he replied with "but you have such a big lead anyway". That is not fair and outright silly to be honest.

#7 2007-09-27 14:15 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

no comments... :)

#8 2007-09-27 14:25 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

to be fair, AV should keep deserved scores.

#9 2007-09-27 14:38 by valla (213.114.243.XXX)

or atleast make WO's count for 300-0 like they used to. And I think in this case, it would be fair.

#10 2007-09-27 14:49 by HighlandeR (150.254.194.XXX)

300-0 for each map is a good idea as a WO suppose to be a punishment for one team, not for both as it appears in that case

#11 2007-09-27 14:54 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

300-0 for each map? its too much. You can as good put as in last place in div5 :<

#12 2007-09-27 15:21 by HighlandeR (150.254.194.XXX)

lork:
points for wining/losing counts, not frag different.
not much changes here, as you lost that game 2-0 anyway.

it wont affect your standings no matter what score we set in that game unless you happen to finish with the exact same game score and exact same map scores as some other team such that frags start to count.

that's tho unlikely to happen.

#13 2007-09-27 15:36 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

w sumie to mi obojetnie co postanowia, byle AV nie stracilo na tym za wiele :)

#14 2007-09-27 15:42 by ncr (130.243.208.XXX)

Original match scores:

DM2: AV 208-87 NC
E1M2: AV 264-70 NC
Total: AV 472-157 NC

Frag surplus (net frags) for AV in this match: 315

W/O match scores:

Map 1: AV 100-0 NC
Map 2: AV 100-0
Total: AV 100-0 NC

Frag surplus (net frags) for AV in W/O vs NC: 200


Frags lost for AV with the original match vs NC being annulled and replaced by W/O with the score 200-0: 272

Frag surplus (net frags) lost for AV with the original match vs NC being annulled: 115

Old frag count for AV: 2322
New frag count for AV: 2050

Old frag balance for AV: 1503
New frag balance for AV: 1388


Old frag count for NC: 157
New frag count for NC: 0

Old frag balance for NC: -315
New frag balance for NC: -200


As can be seen from the above calculations (please correct me if something is amiss), we lose both in frag balance and in frag count with the original game being replaced by a 200-0 W/O win. NC lose in frag count but gain in frag balance. Our loss may be marginal, but as tight as things will be in the top when the end of the regular season draws near, it may well be of significance for the outcome of the division. Please do note that the other contenders for the title have yet to play NC, and saying that they have good chances to beat NC by more than 200-0 would be to state the obvious. I call for a W/O win in our favour over NC of 2-0 in maps and 315-0 in frags. This way, our frag balance and frag count will be unaltered (we will not lose anything), whereas NC will lose both in frag count and in frag balance. Only the cheating clan would be punished, not both, as is the case now.

Having spoken my mind, I will respect any decision the administrators may reach.

I also want to say that I appreciate the support we seem to have from different people in the community in this matter, as demonstrated not least by NC themselves.

#15 2007-09-27 16:01 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

I am from NC. Plaese read: (#8)
best regards :)

#16 2007-09-27 16:18 by ncr (130.243.208.XXX)

lork,

That's what I was referring to. :) "not least" does not mean the same thing as "not in the least".

"Not least NC demonstrate support for us." = "NC are among those who demonstrate (the most) support for us."

#17 2007-09-27 16:47 by lork (83.3.208.XXX)

ok, my mistake :)

#18 2007-09-27 16:53 by bUn (82.117.96.XXX)

My opinion is that replaying the games is the only fair thing to do and to issue a warning.

Sassas answer "but you have such a big lead anyway" . Thats just kindergarden mentality. Act a bit more mature and follow the rules. Imagine such whine in other sports and comments like that from a referee.

#19 2007-09-27 17:28 by kryddturken (88.131.66.XXX)

A bit of drama is always nice but this decision is crazy.

Let us play them again or give us back our frags.

#20 2007-09-27 18:09 by gore (85.211.254.XXX)

plate.cfg ?

#21 2007-09-27 18:46 by Hooraytio (89.160.23.XXX)

lol gore :)

#22 2007-09-27 19:16 by lork (87.206.223.XXX)

gore: hehe :)
no, goqsane betrayed us :<

#23 2007-09-27 20:23 by HighlandeR (83.20.218.XXX)

there's no solution here that would *work* in any case.

imo we should leave it as WO and _in_case_ at the end of a season order of team positions depend on frag difference, look into it again and decide if order should be changed.

"but you have such a big lead anyway"
I believe this sentence is taken out of the context and does not fully show what sassa had in mind :D

#24 2007-09-27 21:35 by QrA (83.11.114.XXX)

i agree with other - give back deserved frags to AV or replay the match (we will lost it anyway, but one more time we can have some fun with practising respawns :))

#25 2007-09-27 22:28 by ncr (130.243.208.XXX)

HighlandeR:

"imo we should leave it as WO and _in_case_ at the end of a season order of team positions depend on frag difference, look into it again and decide if order should be changed."

That sounds good to me.

#26 2007-09-28 09:03 by fuuv (212.178.121.XXX)

this is what i call a "luxe problem"

#27 2007-09-28 10:50 by Hooraytio (89.160.23.XXX)

i-lands problem? :)

#28 2007-10-23 16:19 by !phil (209.10.89.XXX)

I think the best news is that Highlander is still around QW :D

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