#12 2007-10-29 18:28 by Kwibus (77.249.58.XXX)

Don't worry Marshall. In a year you agree with me ;P

#11 2007-10-29 12:05 by marshall (84.29.19.XXX)

Kwibus: sounds like fun :)

And thanks for the high expectations lol

#10 2007-10-28 13:08 by Kwibus (77.249.58.XXX)

Ncr:
I was about to play some games with la! 2 weeks ago as an trainee, but my microphone didnt seem to work and as they use mm3 that pretty much cancelled the practise game for me.
Which was no problem, coz I quickly noticed that I had nothing to do in this team. Im more a player for the low divisions who is semi active and just wants to play some games to have some fun.
I predict these guys to be in div3 atleast after next season. They got the raw talent for it and if they keep the activity they will for sure.

They remind me of vvv about 2-3 years ago. They also went to div2 in 3 seasons from div5. Unfortunately they lost activity and dissapeared.

Anyways, I havent told them afterwards, but I dont have that ambition. I just wanted to hang in div5/4 with some mm2 clan and play some games ;)

#9 2007-10-25 20:05 by marshall (84.29.19.XXX)

Indeed ncr, it was boggling my mind as well. Normally when we get control on dm2 we find ourselves with 3 people on low, while noone has tele. Luckily this time we kept the tele part and left low alone exept for some runs in between.

Btw i like your writing style, no wine, just sportmanship and a nice read.

#8 2007-10-25 20:00 by ncr (130.243.208.XXX)

Defcon 5:

No, if you ask me the line-ups weren't fully streamlined. If we'd been able to, we'd have made adjustments regarding all maps, I think. The only thing that I'm 100 % sure was in the right place is that ekz played all three maps. He was clearly the star on our half of the field.


marshall:

You shouldn't be sorry -- we were pestering you to play, remember? ;) We were quite simply too hungry to realise that the prerequisits were lacking. And this is not to say that we would have won hands down or even at all if we had optimised our line-ups, if I wouldn't have had ~10 % PL and if we would have been warmed-up. That's not what I'm trying to say. Chances are you'd beat us anyway, because you're simply not bad. Granted, some luck is involved in the DM2 start in particular, but you played the map by the book from there. I think that is what boggled our minds the most, and I'm sure it's what boggles my mind the most. Your DM2 blew us away.

#7 2007-10-25 16:50 by marshall (84.29.19.XXX)

Nice write-up ncr, i really agree with all your points and i'm sorry we choose such a bad day (for you) to play against you :)

Great game overall and i'm really looking forward to the final scores in div5, even the most potential clans in div5 can still end up anywhere from place 1-6 :)

Thanks for the compliments as well, after some adjusting to eachother inside the clan, getting a nice lineup and winning this important match i think we're finally on the right path.

#6 2007-10-25 14:26 by Defcon 5 (85.127.230.XXX)

hey AV did you play in full lineup ??

#5 2007-10-25 11:55 by ncr (130.243.208.XXX)

Jaded by their swift progress through this season's fifth division of the EQL, la! knew to be quick to ask us about our map. After a discussion that took longer than should have been necessary (sorry, la!), we decided on E1M2. This turned out to be a good choice. The first half of the map was even, with advantage shifting quickly and continuously. Then we came into it for real and seized the map. We lost control for the last few minutes though and la! was able to tidy the numbers up somewhat in their favour.

DM3 is what we would believe to be our weakest map. We have no interest whatsoever in RA. We have just recently learnt that there is a pent outside where you fetch the mega every once in a while. Consequently, we like to take it. It feels "naughty" and kind of forbidden. The game against la! on this map was extremely even. A cavalcade of bad to mediocre playing over all, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well things were going. We took control at the very end, maybe in the 18th minute or so. It was close, but their hiding techniques proved superior to our intercepting skills.

We knew they'd be good on DM2. A recent practice game came out very close, I think in our favour. We did indeed rape them on DM2 when we played them the first time, but that was during a time when they employed a bizarre habit of never topping their team -- maybe om their full potential te verstoppen. This time around, they played with a topped team, got one of the fullest starts I've ever had the pleasure to give away (I personally saw to it not to reach low RL in time at 00.01) and had practiced quite assidiously for a few months. One can only state that we should have practiced as much during season as during summer.

Also, I think we'll be more thoughtful regarding the circumstances of future EQL games. We'd been hungring for an EQL game (and pretty much for a game at all) for about three weeks when finally, AV having had no warmup and lacking a key player due to computer malfunction, and my connexion being in its shittiest, most PL-ridden state, la! after a somewhat lengthy internal discussion finally kindly agreed to play us that god-forsaken tuesday -- and thus we naggingly achieved one of our most inelegant defeats ever.

However, nothing bad that doesn't bring something good with it. I hope this defeat against la! will bring us back down to earth in some people's eyes so that they'll have the fortitude to play a few pracs against us again. It's been tiresome to be turned down by some clans when we've been looking for prac (as well as occassionally while looking for an EQL game) because they've thought us to be "too good". Thank god for CSN, eQ, Osams, CMT and the other clans in division 4. It has sometimes seemed that when you're div 5 and want someone to play, this is the place to look -- which is strange, considering the immense EQL activity in division 5 on paper.

Having said all this, one cannot escape the fact that what la! is on their way of achieving, and, regardless of the final outcome of the division, indeed what they have already achieved, is one of the most impressive rates of progression I've ever come across. They were a completely new team in the beginning of this season, and we quickly counted them out. Never would I have expected them or indeed anyone to come this far in such a short time. They have learnt a great deal to say the least, and their determination and endurance is admirable. This tuesday, it earned them the group game victory over what some people have talked of as a favourite clan in division 5 this season, and a clan that is playing its second season in the division and in the EQL in general.

I hope that now that the Game has finally been played we'll be able to play many a practice game with la!. They're a good match and as such a valuable resource. Remains to congratulate them on the victory and wish them good luck in the remaining games.

Hats off to Limbs Away! and see you in the play-offs. ;)


Note: I hope I don't come across as a whiner in the above text. The text is aimed to convey my feelings about the game and the difficulties sometimes associated with getting practice games, and while I really want to ventilate those, I would never want to point fingers, stir up drama or cause schisms.

#4 2007-10-25 09:02 by fuuv (212.178.121.XXX)

:) fucking nice match :)

started with the feeling it wasnt going to end in a win. First off e1m2, we knew this was probly going to be a loss. Altho we had a few good quad runs that could turn the game. But AV was just a bit too good at the end.

Dm3 was the map we picked and knew we were going to win. Altho it was very close at the end. i never had the idea we were about to loose.

Then the last map was ofc dm2. In 1 off our first pracs as a clan we played AV, and got raped. Meanwhile by now we had pracced it alot, especially against div4 clans. But still my memory was how good AV was on dm2. We started and had the fullest start we could wish for. Both rl's and quad. After 3 mins it was like 50-3 or so and then luke said something like "Hey guys, we totally raping them" So then it was all focus for the win.

It was a really exciting game, hopefully AV thinks the same about this. I dont have to wish them goodluck, cause they know they're good enough to win most of the matches skill-wise :)

Peace

#3 2007-10-24 15:24 by bjorta (90.231.18.XXX)

It was gg. Sometimes you love dm2, and sometimes you just hate it. Yesterday I wanted to flush the friggin' map down the toilet ;)

#2 2007-10-24 15:13 by sajko (82.182.64.XXX)

believe*

I think we played pretty good on E1M2. I was expecting us to be completely raped on that map as we haven't pracced on that map as much as the others. We did pretty good though and it was fairly tight throughout the game. AV pulled through towards the end though and won by quite a margin.


Dm3 was really tight.
For me it felt like I was just running around looking for a weapon the entire map. It felt like we were in control of RA and Quad most of the game. AV got all pentas though and managed to get quite a few frags and didn't give many away.
Around 17-18mins I think AV started to get a grip of the map and getting in control. At about 19 we started hiding and slowspawning trying to secure the win, which we did! yay.

On Dm2 we got a fullspawn and pretty much kept it that way throughout the entire game. If AV ever got in control of tele/ng area it was for a very short time.
Very pleased with our performance on dm2, I thought it'd be tighter for sure!

#1 2007-10-24 14:48 by Sajko (82.182.64.XXX)

can't belive we played so good at DM2 !

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