Playoffs & Qualifiers commencing

2005-12-07 22:56 by ?ke Vader

For the clans who are about to play qualifying games and playoff it's now time to do that. You are expected to do this during this week. As you can see in the premiership playoff division table, it's Fragomatic vs Suddendeath and Firingsquad vs Antiquad that are to be played (nr1 vs nr4, nr2 vs nr3). Never mind the division table here, we'll take no consideration to it, it's playoff style that matters. The winners will face eachother in a grand final later on.

In the other divisions it's qualifying time. The only matter to make clear here is that the teams from the same divisions brings the points from their previous game they've had this season. That only makes you have to play two matches versus the clans in the other division. You're free to go on with both qualifying games and playoff games whenever you want to, i know some clans have already started. The sooner they're played, the better. :)

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Comments

#1 2005-12-08 01:03 by bps

sweet!

#2 2005-12-08 07:12 by siikah

"the teams from the same divisions brings the points from their previous game they've had this season. That only makes you have to play two matches versus the clans in the other division."
Horrible, madness and insanity. Just trow a dice and we're done with it. That a game two months ago should matter in a playoff really sucks. But no point arguing more, nobody will listen anyways.

#3 2005-12-08 10:00 by dje

not that i care about qualifiers or it's rules, but i agree siik.

#4 2005-12-08 20:12 by [DC]panczo

agree siikah too

#5 2005-12-09 12:28 by gppo

couldnt agree more with siikah, never heard of such a stupid rule. whats the point in getting better if a game played 2 months ago still counts in a playoff, with no chance to revenge?

what are you thinking (with) ?

#6 2005-12-09 13:23 by gaz

The rule only makes sense if they make it clear before the season starts that the games played in regular season could be used in the playoffs as well. I don't remember whether the admins made this clear or not - if they did then you've got nothing to complain about :P The rule itself is not stupid IMO, just whether or not the clans are aware of it in time.

#7 2005-12-09 13:44 by siikah

gaz: What is NOT stupid about this rule?

It doesn't matter if I would have known this the last couple of years, it's still a bad idea.

It makes an assuption that clans won't try to improve themselves during the regular season. And if they do - this rule will still put them at disadvantage in the playoff.

By coincidence I happen to play in a clan which had this particular game during the second week, of course this makes it matter more to me... As with low-div3, they hadn't even played the game so for them it didn't matter, only made them need to play three games instead of two the playoff week.

#8 2005-12-10 13:29 by HangTime

What's NOT stupid about this rule is that it rewards clans who did well during the regular season, which is as it should be.
Personally I can't stand playoff systems where the teams that were consistently the best across the season have all their hard work taken away and some team that just scraped into the playoffs gets lucky in a one-off match and earns promotion.

#9 2005-12-10 15:40 by siikah

Good point HangTime, but this system doesn't reward clans who did good the entire season, it rewards them depending on the outcome of _one_ randomly selected game (although the clan must gather enough points to make it to the playoffs - as it should be). A league should be entirely without playoffs or with playoffs where the starting point is the same for all clans.

To choose between this system and no playoffs I'd pick the later one.

#10 2005-12-10 16:22 by slabiutki

Just from curious i checked div3 qualifiers and i wasnt suprised to see that siikah clan lost their game 0:2 with another qualifier from their div ;)

#11 2005-12-10 21:05 by dje

sherlock fucking slabiutiki holmes, that was exactly siikahs point. they lost a game early in the season and would probably do a better game today if they had the chance to, which they don't.

#12 2005-12-10 22:24 by siikah

Wake up slabiutki. I wrote that in an earlier post. If this wouldn't have happened to any clan there would have been nothing to argue about.

#13 2005-12-11 14:42 by ?ke Vader

Let's make someone get the Smackdown tourney back, then everyone will be happy! \o/

#14 2005-12-11 22:49 by siikah

We've won both our qualification games and we're still under the bar. Hooraaay...

#15 2005-12-11 22:59 by pepin

that is really lol. It's a really stupid system if u cant qualify even if u win both matches :)

#16 2005-12-11 23:00 by thx

Yes, awesome rule. There was no reason for dqm to even play the qualifications, won both matches and still can't win :)

#17 2005-12-13 13:02 by mli

The current point system sucks. Winning 2-0 should give 3 points if losing 2-1 gives one point. If winning 2-0 only gives two points then losing 2-1 should give no points at all.

#18 2005-12-13 14:19 by ?ke Vader

Good point (ghahahaha), i've thought about the scoring system too and maybe it needs polishing...

#19 2005-12-13 15:35 by gaz

I've been saying that for weeks mli...

#20 2005-12-14 22:43 by dje

omg awesome, i love that you won both games dqm and still didnt make it. its like the perfect ending to all of this :)

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