#1 2006-09-19 00:40 by Mursu (85.131.95.XXX)

FIRST
GG

#2 2006-09-19 00:48 by plast (83.30.15.XXX)

another eql starting for d2 1:2 instead of 2:0, which was within grasp (2 frags @dm2 ffs)

but, besides the ping-whine-war ;) - ggs

#3 2006-09-19 05:53 by Grass (85.156.250.XXX)

mursu ftw gg!

#4 2006-09-19 07:59 by Noel (83.22.0.XXX)

Ping war :( , meybe admins will allow polish servers ;) hyhy

#5 2006-09-19 08:15 by Diki (85.76.248.XXX)

Maybe polish players will stop faking their ping with qizmo.
For example: What if aq will use some rerouting to get 100ms average... and then ask la to set minping to 100 or use reroute? Is that fair? After that la woudnt have any advantage on aiming and it would be much closer match.

#6 2006-09-19 08:36 by Noel (83.22.0.XXX)

Diki: if you don't remember I always play with this ping on wargamez , and this ping was the best what we can do .

#7 2006-09-19 09:20 by menth0l (83.145.225.XXX)

Polack clans = ping whine.

#8 2006-09-19 10:25 by Hooraytio (212.214.218.XXX)

gg zoo

hej Noel!

#9 2006-09-19 11:19 by 1tsinen (62.197.175.XXX)

Go Lojo!!! :F

#10 2006-09-19 11:44 by plast (83.30.15.XXX)

http ://quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1073

#11 2006-09-19 12:57 by Mursu (85.131.95.XXX)

D2 shows some really sneaky kurwaskills on first map after the pingwhine. They turned on mingping 49 on the same second as the countdown started so that the message of it got lost in all of the countdown text. After boring a few rl:s and missing every sg we realized some of us had ping 55 instead of 26 :). The round was then restarted without the minping

#12 2006-09-19 13:15 by [dc]panczo (87.105.250.XXX)

noel ja wiem czemu przegraliscie dm2.... :P

#13 2006-09-19 14:59 by plast (83.30.15.XXX)

Diki: Ye, I'm hiding my real 13ms @wargamez just for fun... GOD. And no one is saying the limit should be 100ms, more like 50ms and only for AVERAGE ping. With Moltas' 13ms we had average around 40 ms so all you needed to do was to reroute to 39 ms.

Mursu: I still don't know why we stopped it, it was your average 49 vs our average 60, still your advantage. I guess it must've been too low advantage to continue the game. You didn't feel comfortable enough to win easily? ;P

#14 2006-09-19 15:12 by marklar (81.197.157.XXX)

no kip, no win :/

#15 2006-09-19 15:16 by Mursu (85.131.95.XXX)

afaik we followed the rules. Actually I could have played with that ping too but to turn mingping on "secretly" after we have agreed not to use it is ... not nice :/

#16 2006-09-19 15:17 by Mursu (85.131.95.XXX)

I meant 'minping'. :(

#17 2006-09-19 15:33 by plast (83.30.15.XXX)

Sure, bring it down to 'we followed the rules' and keep thinking everything is ok. Concept of fair play is forgotten I guess.

#18 2006-09-19 15:35 by Diki (85.76.248.XXX)

All this whine is cause your connections are not good enough. So get better Internet connection And yeah now you say that you could play on poland. Well this is still european league and we can play with 25ms ping @ finland, sweden, norway, estonia, danmark. And btw I have 16ms tft with 60hz and i dont ask you to use 60hz + 500hz mouse which causes 2ms lag too, snifff! ;) (So I played with 39+16+2=53ms latency)
But afterall it was a tight game but still so...
OJOJ VITUN HELPPO :D

#19 2006-09-19 15:58 by plast (83.30.15.XXX)

"All this whine is cause your connections are not good enough."

50% true. The other half is 'because nevertheless we want it to be as equal as possible'.

"So get better Internet connection"

Sorry, not possible at this moment.

"this is still european league and we can play with 25ms ping @ finland, sweden, norway, estonia, danmark."

How about 50-70ms Czech, UK, Russia? Still Europe. Who said those countries you mentioned are better than those I mentioned? Maybe the fairest server FOR BOTH TEAMS not only YOURS will be Russian server where we all got 70ms? You really want me to force such solution next time? Please.

#20 2006-09-19 16:08 by Diki (85.76.248.XXX)

But the question is: Who is going to develop 0ms/1000hz tft for me?

#21 2006-09-19 17:21 by menth0l (83.145.225.XXX)

A few things: Russia isn't in Europe, and you can't "force such a solution".

#22 2006-09-19 17:41 by plast (83.30.6.XXX)

Last time I checked Russia was in Europe but that's not the issue.

Yes, I could force such solution. It's just following the rules blindly - finding fair server for both teams. But of course I won't since I'm not happy playing with 50ms not to mention 70ms.

#23 2006-09-19 19:21 by ^ cpe (158.75.214.XXX)

plzzzz, let the drama end.

ping will be always an issue for Poles - that's just it. we can't get better ping than 38-40ms bcoz of fucked up routing. we have only 1 (1 like ONE) main ISP, and basicly he can do anything what he wants.

plast - pingwhine won't change that UR sooo daubish :>

#24 2006-09-19 19:36 by plast (83.30.6.XXX)

It just has to be settled once and for all. I'm wasting too much time dealing with this flame-ping-whine-wars before every eql game and I'm sick of it.

CPE DAUB :X

#25 2006-09-19 21:07 by Mursu (85.131.95.XXX)

btw. what kind of pings do you have on polish servers when you play duels / quads etc?

#26 2006-09-19 23:31 by gaz (84.12.59.XXX)

shotgan trick bud

#27 2006-09-20 00:07 by plast (83.30.6.XXX)

I got 26. Some got 13, some 39. Like everywhere.

#28 2006-09-20 18:17 by HighlandeR (193.219.28.XXX)

#25:
htt p://pooh.wsb.poznan.pl/~bartek/scoreboard1.jpg
htt p://pooh.wsb.poznan.pl/~bartek/scoreboard2.jpg

just samples from recent pickups

#29 2006-09-21 11:48 by Hooraytio (212.214.218.XXX)

nice with all 3 opening games being so close tho :)

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