#27 razor, Nah I wouldn't say it's always been like that. If i'm right regarding your statement that would mean for example, if we were to predict slackers ended 8th and 3tk ended 3rd, would that by your saying mean that tVS would play 3tk? Seeing as they are clearly lower seeded than SR? I think it's always been based on the positions in the table, ie. a fixed bracket. #1 always plays #8th. etc. And #4 and #5 is in that very same bracket. Meaning the semifinal is between the winner of #1 and #8 vs winner between #4 and #5.

still i didn't get it..why fa places higher than cpm.qw. where are cpm.qw's wo points?

I think in previous seasons it has been highest seed always plays the lowest? So that the 1st team always get the best path.

it's logical and I think we all know that it's 1vs8 2vs7 etc.. but the question comes at semifinals. It's not enough to say "2vs3" and "1vs4" . The question is if it's fixed brackets or if the highest seed always play the lowest seed.

Disregard that news about machinery.
There was an older error that gave machinery an extra point vs ABLZ which hadnt been corrected. Div3 playoff fixtures are correct as shown in the news now.

I think activity is what counts in these tournaments... Otherwise tvs and sd shouldnt play at all since we _belong_ to the final.
Im not sure if this is place for speculation but i watched that sr - sd demo and even sr managed to win bps and the rest of SD showed really strong gameplay there. Even IF diki started to play serious again and wanted to play instead of Milton we are going to have really tough time to win SD (or SR)

Machinery when you seems to be active here and not at irc atm, can you play tonight ~19-21 cet?

Correct tables are coming.

I also updated with who meets who and corrected a mistake that put mofos in playoffs instead of machinery.

Yes, the confusion with placings depends on a number of WO's. We will present those asap.

Darff: yeah that appears to be the case, its just the WO's havent been added in the tables yet.

And to xpr: yeah I'm not gonna complain about the fairness of it. You deserve the spot, but I still regard SD as a stronger team and therefore would prefer not facing them in the first play off match. Too bad they weren't more active throughout the season. Thats my only point :-).

GL HF! Looks like hot games ahead.

I'm not an admin, but seems pretty logical to me looking at which clan plays which that the seeds are indeed 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5. and semifinals are 1v4 and 2v3. The misunderstanding comes from the old group stage division table that hasn't been updated with the walkovers. So in the case where Machinery have gone missing from playoffs I guess some teams got walkovers and they didn't, which meant they missed their chance. This is why I think the walkovers are flawed, some teams don't even bother to collect their walkovers where as other teams see this as a chance to get a better position and claim WO's, and I think this is what happened in div3. That's not saying activity SHOULDNT be rewarded. But it's just strange when I think a better? team goes missing because other teams were smart enough to submit their walkovers.

Would be good to get some kind of explanation about things like which seed plays which, and why machinery aren't in the div3 playoffs... don't lose faith now 1tsinen!

QFs should definitely be 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5, and SFs should then definitely be 1v4, 2v3. Is this the case?

and, boys, please be sweet :)
peace, bros

as i remember, we managed to shedule a game with Rev at least 2 time (and first time was definetely in the first half of season), but didn't play because of some avenger's software/hardware problems, and absense of their 4th player another time.

It seems there was not much point in my post. But me writing posts is closest to tvs getting pracs nowadays and that was just a warmup x[

Maybe you should read my post xpr? Where I explained that I rather play SD instead of CCCP and Enigma. Why would I try to mess up your oh so deserved 5th spot? I said the walkover system was flawed, much like it's always been, but on the other hand I had no idea you tried to schedule the game with them, all I know is they've been active at one point, and CCCP active in the latter stage of the season. Besides, my post regarding the walkover was a reply to Rikolls post, clearly I'm not the ONLY one who should fix my eyes here, xpr.

Fix your eyes nitram, we had 1(!) unplayed game vs Rev on last week, which i tried to schedule in last 4 weeks, constantly asked on their almost empty
channel. I can't say that we were superactive during this season, but way more active than SD, which played 80% of their games on last 2 weeks.
Actually i don't care about playoff's opponent, because SR/F/Enigma/SD looks more or less equal for me, but these nitram's attemps to get CCCP as playoff's opponent looks so transparent and funny :) Be a men please and accept possible loss vs SD in 1st round :D
And Rikoll, we won vs Enigma, so we should be higher in table from your point of view, but reality is a bit different.

and what is the machinery? How is this possible with the FA could jump into our place without change of the table teams below us?

SD - f is going to be a thriller. SD in their best shape and with a bit of luck can beat anyteam this season. With some activity they might even face slackers in the final.

On paper we're seeded in the toughest bracket I guess, but I think it's perfect for us coming into every game as underdogs. SD aren't very active as a team anyway so if we just field active players I wouldn't worry too much. Slackers will most likely be a tough opponent for either us or SD, but they are beatable for sure. I guess you could pick from getting an easier opponent in CCCP and Enigma but then facing an (almost) impossible task in beating TVS in a semifinal. So I think we should still be pleased with our seeding, considering CCCP and Enigma seems pretty motivated and tries to get pracs going, both teams have great potential so I would be more worried if we were to face either of those teams in a quarterfinal.

I can understand you dont wanna face SD :) to be fair thou CCCP has been kind of semi-active the entire season (we played them early at least) so it might be fully possible they deserved that WO, i dont know any details though. About SD: they only got active the very last weeks and played 8 games so even if they ARE 4th best doesnt mean they deserve the spot since the point system rewards activity alot.
I think we (enigma) prefers getting CCCP thou :) even thou we lost to CCCP and won SD in the regular season.

I am guessing no1 doesnt play no2 in semi

no1 vs no4
no2 vs no3 ?

Sure, must be the way it goes then. CCCP in front of SD season seems really weird when comparing those two teams result. Not gonna whine about unfairness, but it sure looks like SD is at least the 4th best team this season so kinda suck facing them in the quarters when you've placed 3rd yourself due to abit weird WOs.

Looking at the groupgames, looks like f - sd is going to be a hot game. :)

Walkovers have been included, they just haven't updated the table. I'm guessing CCCP took WO from revolution (which is strange?) and surpassed suddendeath and Sauna, whom probably didn't take/or get any WO's. Thus resulting in CCCP moving up to 5th, suddendeath down to 6th and Sauna on 7th.

What I mean by strange is that Revolution played real hard the first months of the season but seems to have gone inactive the last 2 weeks. This makes the rules for wo pretty strange, considering teams like CCCP and suddendeath just started to get real active the last week (and the additional 1 week) of the season.

From my view it seems that in Div1 its 1st vs 8th, 2nd vs 6th, 3rd vs 5th and 4th vs 7th. Seems really weird tbh. Also I can't see how Sauna, 3tk or CCCP can get past SD if that is not the case. I mean, it should be like 1vs8, 2vs7, 3vs6, 4vs5 ye?

Is there somekind of problem with confirming games that include a wo?

Adding the playoffs games without having corrected the group stage tables just makes it a bit confusing for a lot of clans and players :S

I'm working on an end of group play / playoffs text btw :E

exactly. Where machinery?

well strange thing:) why machinery does not play in play-off (div3)?