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Playoffs Division 1the Viper Squad vs Slackers
3 - 1

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-09 Comments: 40 Today: 0
the Viper Squad-Slackers 229-153 @ DM2
the Viper Squad-Slackers 192-200 @ DM3
the Viper Squad-Slackers 256-170 @ E1M2
the Viper Squad-Slackers 267-117 @ DM3
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Playoffs Division 2Apocalypse 2000 vs Demolition Crew
3 - 1

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-09 Comments: 17 Today: 0
Apocalypse 2000-Demolition Crew 268-128 @ DM2
Apocalypse 2000-Demolition Crew 158-202 @ DM3
Apocalypse 2000-Demolition Crew 268-202 @ E1M2
Apocalypse 2000-Demolition Crew 203-148 @ DM3
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Playoffs Division 3Bloodpunch vs osams
3 - 0

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-06 Comments: 16 Today: 0
Bloodpunch-osams 201-94 @ DM3
Bloodpunch-osams 167-139 @ DM2
Bloodpunch-osams 243-110 @ E1M2
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Playoffs Division 3In A Blaze vs Fallen Angels
3 - 2

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-05 Comments: 16 Today: 0
In A Blaze-Fallen Angels 156-110 @ DM3
In A Blaze-Fallen Angels 128-164 @ DM2
In A Blaze-Fallen Angels 184-196 @ E1M2
In A Blaze-Fallen Angels 172-98 @ DM3
In A Blaze-Fallen Angels 199-150 @ DM2
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Playoffs Division 3Bloodpunch vs In A Blaze
3 - 2

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-04 Comments: 8 Today: 0
Bloodpunch-In A Blaze 134-141 @ DM3
Bloodpunch-In A Blaze 188-149 @ DM2
Bloodpunch-In A Blaze 178-165 @ E1M2
Bloodpunch-In A Blaze 108-215 @ DM3
Bloodpunch-In A Blaze 203-196 @ E1M2
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Playoffs Division 3osams vs Fallen Angels
3 - 0

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-03 Comments: 53 Today: 0
osams-Fallen Angels 219-44 @ DM3
osams-Fallen Angels 216-114 @ E1M2
osams-Fallen Angels 183-138 @ DM2
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Playoffs Division 1the Viper Squad vs Enigma
3 - 1

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-03 Comments: 18 Today: 0
the Viper Squad-Enigma 217-165 @ DM3
the Viper Squad-Enigma 168-206 @ DM2
the Viper Squad-Enigma 235-168 @ E1M2
the Viper Squad-Enigma 226-202 @ DM2
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Playoffs Division 2Apocalypse 2000 vs PISSED COBS
3 - 2

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-02 Comments: 9 Today: 0
Apocalypse 2000-PISSED COBS 207-198 @ E1M2
Apocalypse 2000-PISSED COBS 199-213 @ DM2
Apocalypse 2000-PISSED COBS 205-137 @ DM3
Apocalypse 2000-PISSED COBS 166-226 @ DM2
Apocalypse 2000-PISSED COBS 252-212 @ E1M2
9
Playoffs Division 1Slackers vs Fusion
3 - 0

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-02 Comments: 40 Today: 0
Slackers-Fusion 273-144 @ DM3
Slackers-Fusion 196-182 @ DM2
Slackers-Fusion 275-187 @ DM2
40
Playoffs Division 2Demolition Crew vs Fraggers United
3 - 1

Game info

Reported: 2010-05-02 Comments: 5 Today: 0
Demolition Crew-Fraggers United 155-165 @ DM3
Demolition Crew-Fraggers United 207-150 @ DM2
Demolition Crew-Fraggers United 201-168 @ E1M2
Demolition Crew-Fraggers United 225-158 @ E1M2
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.: osams vs Fallen Angels
Playoffs Division 3Reported: 2010-05-03 22:44Week: 9
.: Played Maps
DM3 - The Abandoned Base
osams: 219Fallen Angels: 44
422.jpg
Submitted data
gaz65
stefan (steppa)62
thompen (gorbatjevtarzan)50
manny42
Zalon13
Peppe13
ncp9
Memo9
Map Statistics:
Teams-os-fa
Frags21944
Summary

Map: dm3

Date: 2010-05-03 21:14:36 CEST

Quads155
Red Armors3311
Yellow Armors3022
Pentagrams40
Taken RLs2031
Killed RLs2518
Dropped RLs620
Given Damage2942316886

Efficiency awards goes to [-os-]GazadokS for 92.9 effi

RL Killer awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 10 killed RLs

Frag Streak awards goes to [-os-]GazadokS for 33 frags in one streak

Quadrunner awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 8 frags in one Quadrun

Boomsticker awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 38.2 shotgun percentage

Aimer awards goes to [-os-]GazadokS and [-os-]gorbatjevtarzan for 18 direct rocket hits

Annihilator awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 8905 given damage


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E1M2 - Castle of the Damned
osams: 216Fallen Angels: 114
423.jpg
Submitted data
manny68
stefan (steppa)57
gaz54
thompen (gorbatjevtarzan)37
Peppe38
ncp27
whimp25
Zalon24
Map Statistics:
Teamsfa-os-
Frags114216
Summary

Map: e1m2

Date: 2010-05-03 21:43:23 CEST

Quads137
Yellow Armors1635
Taken RLs3423
Killed RLs1728
Dropped RLs186
Given Damage2253931309

Efficiency awards goes to [-os-]manny for 63 effi

RL Killer awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 10 killed RLs

Frag Streak awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 26 frags in one streak

Quadrunner awards goes to [fa]=FA=peppe! and [-os-]manny for 5 frags in one Quadrun

Boomsticker awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 44 shotgun percentage

Aimer awards goes to [-os-]GazadokS for 18 direct rocket hits

Annihilator awards goes to [-os-]manny for 9164 given damage


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DM2 - Claustrophobopolis
osams: 183Fallen Angels: 138
424.jpg
Submitted data
stefan (steppa)63
gaz47
manny39
thompen (gorbatjevtarzan)34
Peppe46
Memo42
ncp26
whimp24
Map Statistics:
Teams-os-fa
Frags183138
Summary

Map: dm2

Date: 2010-05-03 22:07:18 CEST

Quads155
Red Armors4057
Yellow Armors6452
Taken RLs3951
Killed RLs4428
Dropped RLs1534
Given Damage3806229699

Efficiency awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 71.6 effi

RL Killer awards goes to [-os-]GazadokS for 13 killed RLs

Frag Streak awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 21 frags in one streak

Quadrunner awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 9 frags in one Quadrun

Boomsticker awards goes to [fa]=FA=peppe! for 36.1 shotgun percentage

Aimer awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 36 direct rocket hits

Annihilator awards goes to [-os-]STEFAN for 12961 given damage


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.: Comments
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#1 Hooraytio - 2010-05-03 22:58 (83.233.83.XXX)
A winrar is osams!

congrats osams, and gl to osams in the final and ablz in the bronze game!
#2 Hagge - 2010-05-03 23:12 (85.24.185.XXX)
Sweet Osams! I predicted 3-1, but you guys sure are even stronger than that! :-) Div3 victory coming up?? BP better watch out, especially now after they leaked out all that oil in the US :(
#3 tyrone - 2010-05-03 23:20 (82.171.22.XXX)
3on3 warmup was the key, gg
#4 gaz - 2010-05-03 23:32 (90.202.42.XXX)
DM3:
We got a fullstart except ring and made it count. I got pent+2nd RL and didn't die for about 10 minutes, while thomas was able to take 1st RL and do good stuff with it. We got all pents, most quads and locked down RA = key to victory.

E1M2:
Lots of back and forth as usual for the first 10 mins or so, before we locked down YA/GL and got a comfortable victory. We weren't able to do much good at the quad room and our quad runs weren't that great, but we stopped them penetrating our defences at YA/GL mostly.

DM2:
Chaotic! We had control of tele side for most of the game but they always had 1 or 2 RLs causing havoc at low, and Peppe was a pain in the arse in big room. I had a shocker of a round, and as well as a couple of generally poor quad runs, managed to get squished by Whimp (*shakes fist*) TWICE with quad!
Anyway, we fragged hard and came away with the victory, but we will need to play better than this in the final.

GGs FA, GL for the 3rd place game.
#5 Darff - 2010-05-04 00:44 (188.221.205.XXX)
3on3 warmup is key when peeps don't seem to be playing 4on4 too well in the first few mins... could be key warmup for inactive players in future - 3on3 warmup and top 4 play EQL, everyone has fun and most competitive / best talented get to play in the league.... this is prob assuming everyone is up for it... hmmmmm wine
#6 Darff - 2010-05-04 00:48 (188.221.205.XXX)
By peeps in first sentence I mean people who haven't pracced in a while suddenly getting online and wanting to play EQL but benefitting from 3on3.... hmmm
#7 Kwibus - 2010-05-04 08:12 (92.70.200.XXX)
not the strongest FA line up, but knowing FA they are not that serious that they bother about crap like that :)
#8 Whimp - 2010-05-04 08:15 (193.149.191.XXX)
Congrats osams and good luck vs BP, u will need it.

From my point of view osams won the match when they informed us that they could not play Sunday. As we all know Karnage lives in the states and is working until about 23.00 cet on weekdays. When Bigfoot then chose not to show up, the result was 3 - 0 and an easy win for osams. For me personally i look forward not to play BP as i remember the last match. BP is mid/top div 2 and osams is not :)

I hope that no. 1 and 2 goes to div two, so that we may have a div3 where the clans are more even.

On a completely different matter I also think than any former div0-1 players cannot play in div 3 no matter how lousy there mates are. In div 3 one such player can control any map at any given time. I suggest that the rules are amended to reflect this.
#9 Hooraytio - 2010-05-04 08:50 (85.228.251.XXX)
I cant really see BP as a top div2 clan. They would probably have beaten dc2, ax3 and perhaps m44. We only had 9 active teams in div2 so perhaps BP could have ended mid if beating these teams.

Keep in mind that there will be a summer break now and a lot will happen with the clans and players as usual so we cant really do it sports-style and promote topX teams and demote bottomX teams between divisions. If for example exxus and kreuger quit it makes no sense to promote BP on their EQL11 actions. Also if a player like Avenger would start playing with Ax3 we cant really demote them to div3 based on their EQL11 actions either.

We need to make a decision about each clan before every season and obviously some clan will win and some clan will end last. I dont think div3 was ruined because BP won all their games. There was still a large number of very good games. It is funny how some players want to have the system like in sports with promotion and demotion while at the same time they cant accept that in some cases a certain team will have an easy ride until their correct division is found. Hopefully as many clans as possible will keep their current player base for EQL12 so we can do an even better job with placing the clans accordingly.
#10 Hooraytio - 2010-05-04 09:00 (85.228.251.XXX)
Getting div3 more even?

Have you looked at the table. Yeah BP won 20 lost 0 thats kinda scary but osams won 18 and lost 9. I guess if you remove BP osams would have won 18 while losing 7 and that isnt a very unnatural score for the winning team? Also while looking at the other teams you have 8 teams between 15 and 23 points (here you have pe with 10-3 map score so if they would have played all games they would have been whined about as well). Div3 more even? :/
#11 Stefan - 2010-05-04 09:32 (83.241.227.XXX)
Hey! gg's and gl @ next game FA!

As for commentating on even/uneven division I think most team feel they have a fair chance to beat us, where as playing vs BP, teams know they dont stand a chance. That's the difference. Dp dp doo.
#12 Darff - 2010-05-04 09:34 (193.130.68.XXX)
I thought div3 was fine, osams were beatable so belonged there I felt, BP were very strong but that's just gonna happen from time to time
#13 bnz - 2010-05-04 10:13 (88.112.130.XXX)
All rant and no point makes jack a dull little wanka. If you cant beat BP, prac more.
#14 whimp - 2010-05-04 11:02 (193.149.191.XXX)
Ye just look at SR, they might even have a chance vs TVS now :) But we never prac, so we will never _beat_ anyone or anything :)

And the upside of losing is listening to Peppe on mumble, that it so funny :)
#15 Hooraytio - 2010-05-04 11:11 (85.228.251.XXX)
You beat osams 2-1 in the first game.
#16 fix - 2010-05-04 11:26 (84.251.5.XXX)
whimp look at the brightside, now you get to play bronze game vs In a Blaze, which will be much more interesting than final vs BP would have been.
#17 fix - 2010-05-04 11:32 (84.251.5.XXX)
Hooraytio you are eql admin right? would you care to confirm the other div3 semi? bnz is so ready to write up a huge inside review of the game.
#18 gaz - 2010-05-04 11:32 (77.73.13.XXX)
@ #14
Re: prac
We have practiced twice since EQL10. We played CMT on DM3 just before EQL10 and lost by 250 frags, and a few weeks ago we played two rounds of prac against Dark Abbots. That's all.
#19 peppe - 2010-05-04 20:32 (90.231.150.XXX)
really tired of comments on div3 made by people not in it, don't argue from your pov when you're not losing to BP with 300+ frags alright? they are misplaced, it's so obivious!
playing osams in group games I never thought we'd win, and we won by 11 frags(decider map) and that was pure luck..
really tired of people in div3 carrying a team too :E
whine over.. now I'll wait for a while before I play seriously again
#20 Kreuger - 2010-05-04 21:58 (81.231.234.XXX)
A division cant be even from top to bottom, that would leave you with 2-3 teams/division.

Theres gotta be a top and bottom, we are at the top along with a few other teams.

Question is, where do you wanna draw the line ? Remove BP, Osams, Paras, Inablaze , PE ? 5 out of 13 teams, or maybe even more ?


looking forward to the final against osams, hoping my nerves have recovered from the semi untill then :D
#21 peppe - 2010-05-04 23:20 (90.231.150.XXX)
Kreuger, what about playing in a div you fit in? that wouldn't fuck this div up, it doesn't have to be one team with WWWWWW and others with LLLLWLLLLLLW does it? sure it'll always be one team at the top and one at the bottom, but going to the top should require a hell of a lot more work than taking one or two players from div1/2 am I right?

I'm not saying remove the top5 teams, just players who don't belong!

Osams have come back from a long rest from qw, ok fair enough that they haven't played for a while, but let's be honest.. getting back up on a bike after two years won't be hard after a few metres hm?

I've experienced this for my whole qw career and it does make me pissed off
#22 manny - 2010-05-05 03:16 (86.157.216.XXX)
We have a 2:1 map win:loss ratio. PE and IAB (what acronym do you guys use? I was thinking F&F for fix&friends) have better than that, but finished lower because we were more active throughout the whole season. I think we were one of 3-4 clans (counting paras too) who could have got 2nd place, so to single us out seems slightly unfair. With the expection of BP, I think this div has been pretty even, and very enjoyable.
#23 manny - 2010-05-05 03:18 (86.157.216.XXX)
And about being hard to get back on the bike, watch my pov on the dm3 semi-final game and see how i can noob it up with the best of them, I played so badly :(
#24 Kreuger - 2010-05-05 05:59 (81.231.234.XXX)
@peppe we are moving up next season. Doesnt change the fact that even without us there would have been a team or two tht would have been stronger and better then most of the others, there would be whine on them aswell. Lesser teams will allways whine on the stronger.
#25 peppe - 2010-05-05 06:25 (90.231.150.XXX)
oh you don't see what I mean!?
ofcourse someone will have to win! it's HOW they do it I'm talking about...
I remember a season when there was no whine on the winners, because they had played so many pracs and worked on their tactics to get there, everyone was happy for them!

if osams would've won I wouldn't have been surprised, but I'm not saying they're misplaced, just that it's not surprising they got 2nd place.

And saying shit like "lesser teams will always whine on the stronger"... just don't, that's just fucking rude man
#26 Hooraytio - 2010-05-05 07:57 (85.228.245.XXX)
So all in all this was mainly about BP alltho some guys mixed in osams and ablz just to spice things up.
#27 gaz - 2010-05-05 10:44 (90.202.42.XXX)
Hey! Stop talking like we've come 2nd already, let us play the final before writing us off :D
#28 Hooraytio - 2010-05-05 11:10 (85.228.245.XXX)
I think osams have a good chance at winning! I hope for 5 maps in any case
#29 pattah - 2010-05-05 11:31 (82.198.223.XXX)
I think we all agree, _by hindsight_, that BP is misplaced. The admins do, BP does, and of course their opponents. But who could have certainly known that before? I don't think that BP expected the results to be that clear either. So, please, cut them (and the admins) some slack.

Whimp (#8): Well, regarding yesterday night's score and line-up, I don't think a causa fix is needed after all. :)

The "no matter how lousy there mates are" bit was really unnecessary. :(
#30 gaz - 2010-05-05 11:40 (90.202.42.XXX)
Well in the group game BP had a small ping advantage:

Exxus/Kreuger with 16-24
Putte with 25
Dape with 39

vs

Steppa with 25
Thompen with 25-33
Manny with 39
Gaz with 52

Hopefully BP will be amenable to trying a Dutch server where I think it will be a little closer in terms of pings - hopefully everyone would have 39 there?

Obviously completely even pings wouldn't win us the game but I could certainly feel the disadvantage in the group match, and as underdogs I want to make sure that we improve our odds as much as possible :D
#31 fix - 2010-05-05 12:20 (84.251.5.XXX)
pattah: i guess whimp managed to figure that out by himself already, if not then he has to think even more lowering standards to describe his own team. o_O

manny: iab/ablz whatever :D
#32 pattah - 2010-05-05 12:44 (82.198.223.XXX)
Yea, I agree. Your friends gave the best possible answer. :p
#33 Hagge - 2010-05-05 14:45 (130.235.73.XXX)
I don't think BP has any superior players, and based on the lineup and the whole teams inexperience in 4on4 I think it was not wrong to put them in div3 from the start.

It's not easy to predict the outcome, and sometimes these things happen. Yes, with the result in the hand now we can see that BP is misplaced, but could we really see this from the beginning? I would say no, and I also think they have stepped up their game quite a lot throughout the season, something that wasn't so easy to expect?

If you want to come with whine about team placements, then do that in the beginning of the season.

And to gaz: Considering dape has 39 pings in .dk he will mostly likely have at least 52 ms in the dutchland. Might still be the most fair server though :D
#34 gaz - 2010-05-05 14:55 (90.202.42.XXX)
Hagge: you might be right, I can't remember if we asked one of them to ping up or not though :) Thomas will probably have unstable 40-50 in NL too.

Ah well this is a pingwhine discussion for the day of the final I guess :E
#35 manny - 2010-05-05 16:53 (86.157.216.XXX)
I think a fair and balanced solution would be for us all to play on an american server (they still exist, right?) so show solidarity with our american friends in this time of environmental crisis. Obama said that BP will be made to pay, and Osams shall be the ones to collect.
#36 gaz - 2010-05-05 17:07 (90.202.42.XXX)
haha mannydoks :D
#37 Stefan - 2010-05-05 17:18 (85.225.174.XXX)
<3 manny <3
#38 peppe - 2010-05-05 22:12 (90.231.150.XXX)
@hagge, why don\'t you think they were misplaced? 2 previous div2-players(one played in wunderbar who performed very well in their time) basically carry the team, feels good eh..
stepped up their game? 100% wins, how is that improving more than just rapeing everyone else?
#39 fix - 2010-05-06 11:08 (84.251.5.XXX)
why is peppe so angry? i can hook you up with a dealer in azeroth, wow gold for good prize!
#40 Hooraytio - 2010-05-06 16:34 (85.228.244.XXX)
When Peppe is mad the earth trembles
#41 peppe - 2010-05-06 23:49 (90.231.150.XXX)
fix, because this same shit happens every season? when sd.p had xero in the team we recieved so much shit for it! and we didn't win the fucking season with 100% wins, didn't even win our div..
and making wow-jokes... that's really funny!
If you didn't think you'd recieve comments about you being in div3, you were really high on something!
#42 Hooraytio - 2010-05-07 08:09 (85.228.249.XXX)
I dont remember that you got so much shit for xero peppe? Afaik we beat you without any drama: http://eql.quakeworld.nu/eql4/matches.php?id=350
#43 fix - 2010-05-07 09:42 (84.251.5.XXX)
no need to state the obvious, but after all everyone seems to be whining more about BP than me playing with iab, as the whine wave towards me/us has been almost next to zero.

or then people just dont have the guts to say what they really think. and for the record i do think that i managed to cope pretty good to environment.
#44 peppe - 2010-05-07 21:06 (90.231.150.XXX)
we heard our share..
fix, it could be because of your fame and nobody wants to be kicked out of the fanclub for bashing you in eql-comments
#45 Hooraytio - 2010-05-08 09:55 (83.233.83.XXX)
Seeing as in-a-blaze only ended 3rd i guess it wasnt so overpowering to have fix anyway.
#46 peppe - 2010-05-09 23:06 (90.231.150.XXX)
You don't think it could've been? wtf hooraytio you seem quite smart at times but you dumb yourself down from time to time too.. fix could've played more than 50% of the games right?
#47 Hooraytio - 2010-05-10 08:13 (85.228.253.XXX)
Havent dpne the math but i dont think they had 100% wins when fix played and 100% losses when he didnt. Just a quick browse through their matches shows that they both won and lost no matter if fix was in the team or not. Still, I agree that it might seem lame to drop down in the division system, just as persuader did, but atleast fix was in their lineup from the beginning and didnt lame/whine his way down once the season had begun.
#48 peppe - 2010-05-12 22:59 (78.69.11.XXX)
still, you can't defend putting a div1(been div1 for 39 fucking seasons) player in div3 all of a sudden..
still nobody seems to get the fact that BP lost 0 games.. that's fucking inhuman when playing in the right division!
tbh why not have one week before the season starts, have teams play vs each other and then give comments to help admins decide how to place teams. So when not playing that intro-week you can't whine afterwards?
#49 Hooraytio - 2010-05-14 11:41 (85.228.249.XXX)
Why are you still on about BP? It was impossible to tell before the season that they would win every game.
#50 peppe - 2010-05-15 11:21 (85.227.235.XXX)
because you can't stop writing on a div3 game? which is not your own division!
and because I think it's boring, the way they won..
it would be possible to notice by looking at their roster

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